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Raw Deal rehearsal tape

Raw Deal rehearsal tape (1989)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xpalx6

Raw Deal founded by Carl Porcaro, Rich McLoughlin, and Anthony Drago, all formerly of classic NYHC band Breakdown. Drago and Carl really liked the movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, it’s just the name they came up with. The message of the band was really clear and simple. Their lyrics were kind of realistic, it’s not like they’re positive or negative. It was all about just reality. Don’t live in a fantasy world and be blind to everything around you.


The band’s first show was at the CBGB’s, it was a matinee gig with Sick Of It All, Krakdown, and Absolution on January 24th, 1988. Their first concert at CB’s was unreal, because everyone wanted to see Anthony Comunale’s (ex-Gilligan’s Revenge/Token Entry) return to the stage. “This ain’t Breakdown and it ain’t Token Entry either. This is Raw Deal!”

Raw Deal played the first “Super Bowl of Hardcore” at the Ritz at the beginning of 1988, which was around the same time that they recorded and started distributing their first demo with the help of the legendary Some Records. The demo cassette has become a cult classic and it hasn’t lost any of its power and energy in the decades that have passed since it was first released. They recorded everything live with one take at the Loft studio.

They only played as Raw Deal for about a year and a half. During that time, the band played several times at the Anthrax club in CT, the Right Track Inn (Freeport, NY) and the CBGB’s with Sick Of It All, Krakdown, Maximum Penalty, Warzone and Sheer Terror, furthermore the band was featured on the New Breed compilation tape and the “Where The Wild Things Are…” compilation too.

In 1989 Raw Deal changed their name to Killing Time and ended up signing on with In-Effect Records. (Pic by Bill Wilson)

Killing Time interview by Not For The Weak fanzine

Brightside record rips from start to finish. Anthony Comunale’s vocal range is impressive and their songs are heavy as fuck, include some seriously awesome riffs. RIP Rich McLoughlin of Breakdown/Raw Deal/Killing Time. NYHC legend.

This Killing Time interview is originally published in Not For The Weak fanzine (amazingly hilarious ‘zine out of New Jersey), I hope you will find it interesting! Please click images to view full size.

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New Breed fanzine

New Breed fanzine #1
(Raw Deal, NY Hoods, Pressure Release, SFA, Underdog)
Download the full zine here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9g121u

Do You Know Hardcore fanzine #3
Interview with Freddy Alva, in this issue we are talking about his fanzine editing experiences (FTW fanzine, New Breed fanzine) and the 80s zine culture.
Download the full zine here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/roct9y


Freddy Alva: “I started working on New Breed #1 in late 1987 & it came out summer of 1988. My fellow Queens HC enthusiast Chris Wynne did the Pressure Release & NY Hoods interviews; I did the Raw Deal & SFA interviews plus the Graf letters on the cover. We both did record/demo/live reviews along with our friend Tatu Paul. Proud of the way it came out & Chris went on to do the quintessential NYHC zine ‘In Effect’. The New Breed compilation tape is the second and final issue. Huge thanks to Cooch for the scans.”

Excerpt from the Do You Know Hardcore interview:

DYKHC – You started New Breed fanzine in 1987 as a way of getting more actively involved in the scene. Why did you change the name of the zine from FTW to New Breed?
Freddy – FTW was done with a guy named Howard Charkofsky that was living in my neighborhood, he was an older Punk dude that had grown up on the L.E.S. and I remember seeing him at CBGB’s matinees, saw him around my way, somehow started talking and discovered we both wanted to do a fanzine so we just joined forces. I did two of the interviews in that issue, one with Glitter Witch (by mail) and Ray Cappo (in person). I also did some demo/Lp/live show reviews and besides coming up with the FTW name; I also got my friend to do the cover. We never did a second issue because by that time I wanted to collaborate with some other friends from the scene and we talked about doing a zine that concentrated primarily on up and coming local bands, hence the name New Breed, which I took from the Iron Cross song that appeared on the Flex Your Head comp. It’s lyrics resonated strongly with what me and what my friends were about.

DYKHC – Who were the folks that helped you with FTW/New Breed along the way? I know that Pressure Release interview was made by Chris Wynne (In Effect fanzine), he mailed them some questions and about a week later an envelope shows up with the answers.
Freddy – I’d met Chris Wynne through a mutual friend and told him I wanted to do a new zine, he was closer to my age as opposed to Howard from FTW, who was about 10 years older than me. Chris was extremely enthusiastic and started right away interviewing Pressure Release and the NY Hoods. I interviewed Raw Deal and SFA as well as doing the Graf letters in the cover that spell out New Breed plus laying out the zine. Our friend Paul Oxblood did some demo reviews and me and Chris did the rest of the show/lp/zine reviews. I mentioned before that working on this issue inspired Chris to do his own zine so for the second issue of New Breed I collaborated with Chaka Malik and that became the tape compilation.

Raw Deal pic by Ken Salerno

 

DYKHC – Raw Deal interview. I know that you lived about ten blocks from Anthony Communale in 1986. How was your relationship with him and the band? A few years later they were also featured on the New Breed tape compilation.
Freddy – Anthony was the pied piper of HC in our neighborhood of Jackson Heights. Even though he had already graduated high school by the time I was a sophomore and had been in the scene since pretty much the beginning; he was never condescending or too cool to talk to us younger new jacks. He was extremely generous with letting people tape records from his collection and would recommend an Album or Ep to check out that would turn always turn out to be amazing. He’d also been the original singer for Token Entry and once he got together with 3/5ths of what had been Breakdown, at the suggestion of Duane from Some Records, the end result being Raw Deal. We had to have them on the comp as they represented everything we wanted to document; a newer wave of NYHC that needed to be heard.

Download the full interview here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/roct9y

Outburst photos / Joe Songco

It was originally published in Chiller Than Most fanzine, issue 6 (2018).

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CTM – 01. You played your first show with Abombanation, Krakdown, Token Entry at Right Track Inn in late 1987. As far as I know it was an amazing show where Ray Parada was covered in blood from busting his nose open during Outburst set. What are your memories of the first Outburst show?

Joe Songco – The Right Track Inn was this cool little club in Merrick, Long Island. That’s our original bassist Chris Bruno in that shot. I think it may have been ABombANation’s first show too. Rayco and Matt were also from around the way in Astoria and they were regular visitors to our south side of Astoria Park from the Ditmars Boulevard side. I sure do remember Rayco busting his nose open. Personally, it was awesome that he was dancing for us and fortunately he was okay to go up and do ABombANation’s set! I remember loving their melodic sound. I believe it was Jay Krakdown who got us on that bill. They were always so sick with their live show. I remember introducing myself to their drummer John Soldo because his cousin Christina was my classmate and good friend at St. John’s Prep. Along with Leeway, Kraut & Murphy’s Law, Token Entry were one of the established neighborhood bands so it was great to be playing with them. I remember being really nervous doing the long Johnny Feedback snare roll in “All Twisted” at the end of our set because Ernie was watching from the side. I grew up watching all those great Astoria drummers and I didn’t want to botch it!

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CTM – 02. Outburst with Walter Schreifels on bass

Joe Songco – That was our first CBGB gig in December ’87. Breakdown was supposed to headline but had to cancel so we played with American Standard, Department of Corruption and Atrocity. Our bassist Chris had a family trip he was unable to get out of. Chris and Brian were friends with all the Jackson Heights guys in Gorilla Biscuits & Token Entry. Luckily, Walter offered to fill in on bass and I remember he learned the songs really quickly. Aside from GB, he’d already played for Warzone & Youth of Today so his chops were really good. I’m so glad someone snapped that picture to evidence the time Walter played in Outburst!

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CTM – 03. What’s the story of this Outburst photo? Where and when did you take this photo?

Joe Songco – This was taken on the campus of Columbia University in Manhattan. Our roadie and former high school classmate Julio (to my right in the black leather jacket) had gone to Columbia after high school and he invited us one night to come party at his school.

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CTM – 04. Basketball…

Joe Songco – This was taken in Long Island City, which is a neighborhood on one side of the Queensboro Bridge (on the other side is the famous hip hop neighborhood Queensbridge Projects, home of Nas, Mobb Deep, Roxanne Shante, Marley Marl, etc). Jay and his brother Al were big time basketball fans like me and we often got together to hit the courts. On this day, Brian and one of our other roadies Carlos joined us and we played all afternoon. What’s really cool about this shot is I’m wearing the original Run DMC & Beastie Boys “Together Forever” tour shirt. Eminem also wears this shirt in his video for “Berzerk”.

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CTM – 05. CBGB…

Joe Songco – I’m pretty sure this CBGB show was with Breakdown in ’88. That’s Eric Fink from Side By Side/Uppercut about to launch himself into the crowd off of Brian’s back. This photo was taken by the legendary BJ Papas. I remember during our cover of Kraut’s “All Twisted”, Gavin from Absolution/Burn took the mic and sang the whole second verse.

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CTM – 06. Remembering Elkin

Joe Songco – Elkin just roadied the NYC area Outburst shows. Just a few blocks away from CBGB was St. Mark’s Pizza. We’d usually go there after shows or if we had some time in between bands. “Gotta get that extra cheese slice!” he would say, every time. He loved how they would put a handful of mozzarella on top of any slice with a topping before it went into the oven. That’s all he ever needed as payment for his services. Our roadie, my homie.

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Freddy Alva interview (Abombanation / New Breed compilation / Some Records etc.)

Freddy Alva interview originally published in Chiller Than Most fanzine, issue 3 (2014).

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CTM – Can you give us a lesson about the history of Abombanation? Do you have any info how did Abombanation form originally? What was their lineup? As far as I know Ernie Parada (Token Entry) played drums for them only on the demo and at one or two gigs at most. In Your Face Steve played with the band after the demo until the end and actually sang during one show after Ray Parada.
Freddy – I just asked Ray on the origins of the band & he said that the original members were himself on vocals, Matt O’Brien on guitar, Vadim on bass & Larry “Love” Kaplan on drums. He can’t remember exactly when they formed but I’m guessing it’s early 1987. He said Vadim was then replaced by Nick X& Ernie Parada replaced Larry on drums when Larry joined Breakdown in 1988.

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CTM – Are there any particular shows that stuck in your memory?
Freddy – I only saw A-Bomb-A-Nation once at CBGB’s& was lucky to sit in for a practice at Monkey Hill studios in Queens. The CBGB’s show was memorable because a lot of HC kids from Queens showed up to support a band from our neighborhood. I knew Vadim through Chris Wynne from In Effect fanzine & it was really cool seeing a lot of friends on the audience. The band was awesome, I’ve seen a couple of cool pics from that show, seem to remember someone filming it, hope that video pops up someday.

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CTM – The Abombanation demo, to me, sounds much more like a typical NYHC band of the time. We can hear standard fast parts and dance parts, but also a surprisingly distinct sense of melody. What do you think of the band’s sound? How did that differ from previous bands and attempts?
Freddy – I agree that their sound was very different from other NYHC bands at the time. Besides the other, band members, musical skills. I will credit singer Ray Parada for their atypical sound. Ray was an original class of 1982 HC scenester: he’d gone to the 1st shows at the legendary A7 & had also played drums for the early NYHC band Major Conflict as well as in the unrecorded Rat Patrol w/Adam Mucci from Agnostic Front & Sacrilege NY. Major Conflict had a period where they played a more melodic Stiff Little Fingers influenced sound & I think that Ray carried on that sense of melody to A-Bomb-A-Nation. Being around since the 1st wave of HC allowed him to draw from older influences of melodic HC bands like the Posh Boy Southern California sound or 7 Seconds as opposed to a kid that just got into HC in ’87 & all they knew was stuff like Youth Of Today or Breakdown.

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CTM – Their lyrics were not really typical hardcore lyrics. I really like their meaningful lyrics, what do you think about them?
Freddy – I think the lyrics are really intelligent & well thought out. I will attribute that to Ray being older than us. When I first met him, I’d just finished High School & He was already out of college & working in the “real world”. I think that his life experience was a vital part of the lyrics, rising above more simplistic topics like you ‘stabbed me in the back’ or other like-minded fare of the day.

CTM – I heard that there is an unreleased Abombanation album that they recorded but never released. Have you ever heard these songs? Would you mind writing about this unreleased LP?
Freddy – I’ve never heard the unreleased lp& Ray said that he only heard about a couple of minutes of, he wasn’t too interested because it was after he quit the band. I would love to see the demos & maybe this lp to be released some day.

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CTM – Outburst played their first show with Abombanation at Right Track Inn in late 1987. As far as I know it was an amazing show where Ray Parada was covered in blood from busting his nose open during Outburst set. Were you on this show?
Freddy – Unfortunately I was not at this show, actually only made it out to the Right Track Inn only one time. I asked Ray about the blood on stage & he replied that was from catching an elbow to the nose during the opening band, seems he couldn’t get the bleeding under control when they went on. I’m sure it was quite a sight!

CTM – What is your opinion of the band name Abombanation? I saw a few flyers where it was mispelled. Which band name do you like the most off of New Breed? Mine is Beyond. I read that they chose the name because it represents the way they feel about drugs and any other barriers that weaken your life. To be beyond something is to overcome it, or to surpass it. Awesome band name!
Freddy – Yeah, that was an easy name for people to misspell! I love it though, really conveys a lot. I have to say ‘Life’s Blood’ is my favorite band name on the comp. It is such a strong name that, to me, really illustrates what Hardcore is & to an extension; anything you feel passionate about that inspires the very core of your being & affects your life for the long run. A close second is ‘Raw Deal’. That really captures a situation that happens to the best of us & the band’s music is a release from the emotions that go along with said predicament. I was so bummed when they were forced to change their name to Killing Time due to legal reasons. I still never call them by the KT name!

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CTM – Crucial Chaos on WNYU every Thursday night. An awesome radio show a lot of you in NYC grew up listening to. As I imagine it in the late ’80s you would sit in your room and use your boombox to record all the NYHC bands appearing on Crucial Chaos, live sets and interviews. I really love listening to live sets and radio sets. What do you think, was it any different playing a show and playing a live set on the radio? How should we imagine a WNYU or WMFU set?
Freddy – Listening to Crucial Chaos every Thursday night was such a looked forward to experience. DJ Spermicide had such a cool husky voice. A lot of kids definitely had a crush on her just based on her voice & radio personality. Her sidekick on air was Johnny Stiff, an old school Punk Rock dude who’d been around since the beginning & booked some legendary shows. He was famous for being cranky to people calling in to the show. That’s the thing, it was an epicenter of info for the scene. I would tape the whole show to catch up on new releases, get turned on to old classics, listen for show announcements, ticket giveaways, band interviews; not to mention the live sets that we all anxiously waited for & hit the “record” button.

CTM – “Everybody mosh it up Break everything in your house!” What are your favourite radio sets and why?
Freddy – My favorite NYU sets are by bands who I think it’s their best recorded stuff. For example, I’m not a huge Judge fan but I think their NYU is awesome, best thing I’ve heard by them. Same goes for Side By Side, their studio stuff is ok, but the live set is smoking. Others favorites that come to my mind is being @the studio when Fit Of Anger played & all our friends were there, that was really cool. The interviews are classic too, like YDL & Warzone, there are some choice quotes in there.

CTM – I read about an awesome place on 14th street in NYC called Giant Studios. Many well-known NYHC bands used to rehearse there including Krakdown, Warzone, Side By Side, Breakdown, Death Before Dishonor etc. There were rooms A through Z so you could just walk in and hang out and listen to each band rehearse. What are your memories of Giant Studios?
Freddy – Giant studios was a who’s who of NYHC bands rehearsing there at any given time. It was a great place to catch band members if you wanted to interview them. I remember doing a couple of interviews for my New Breed fanzine there. I actually rehearsed with a band called Last Cause there in late 1988 & right next to us Underdog was rehearsing & we saw Sick Of it All coming in as we walked out. I remember going to see my friends in Our Gang rehearse & it would become a live show with like 15-20 kids packed in the rehearsal room doing “stage dives”, moshing& generally goofing around. Great times all around.

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CTM – I heard a funny story about the singer of Uppercut. Steve Uppercut had no idea they were on this compilation until 2006 when he saw it somewhere on the internet. Do you have any funny stories about the New Breed comp.?
Freddy – That’s funny Steve never knew they were on the comp. I think he drifted out of the scene, like a lot if us did, by the 90’s. I dealt mostly with Robert Sefcik, the Uppercut drummer, as far as getting the Uppercut tracks & artwork for the comp. I see Steve all the time now, I do Acupuncture on him & go see his awesome band Kings Destroy that also features Robert on drums.

CTM – Could you talk about the concept of making the cover for New Breed? The picture looks like the Minor Threat EP but taken from the side.
Freddy – The picture of Chaka sitting on the steps on 8th st near the old Venus Records location is meant to be a homage to Minor Threat’s Lp cover. I took a side view of him, the better to show off the Crucifix patch Chaka had on his right shoulder as well as the Air Jordan sneakers he was sporting. That was basically the only idea we had, took a camera one day after shopping for records & went for it. It’s cool that a lot of people dig it, there’s also a tag on the door above by “Shoe”, that’s Rich from All For One & one of my best friends, so that was great that it turned out that way too. I always considered it as our urban tribute to an iconic HC image.

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CTM – Some Records was an awesome meetig place for hardcore kids, bands, zine editors and people that would help launch that second wave of NYHC in ’86. Would you mind sharing some memories about Some Records?
Freddy – Some Records was the catalyst for me getting really involved in the scene, otherwise I would have just been another passive spectator rather than an active participant. I saw a flyer on a lamppost in 1986 that said “American HC” & gave the store’s location. I immediately went down there & bought my first fanzines & demos. This inspired me to do my own fanzine called FTW. The first interview I ever did for my zine was with Ray Cappo right outside the store. I met Chaka through hanging out there. The inspiration for doing the New Breed comp comes from picking up the legendary Guillotine benefit comp tape there & wanting to do something along the same lines.
Some of my favorite memories:
– Duane unwrapping a brand new copy of the Straight Ahead 12″ & playing it nonstop like 10 times in a row.
– Waiting anxiously for the delivery guy to bring YOT’slp& being the 1st one to buy a blue vinyl copy.
– Having a listening party in the store to AF’s “Liberty & Justice” lp w/Nick YDL, John Life’s Blood, Tommy Carroll, Side By Side guys & Alleyway crew dudes.
There are too many good memories of that place. It really was the epicenter & communication hub of the scene, amazing in itself because the place was only about 300 Sq feet & located down inside a dusty basement but in my memory it is NYHC’s grand palace.

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CTM – I know that you are working on a documentary about New Breed and the bands on it. Any updates?
Freddy – The latest on the New Breed documentary is that we finally got a new video editor, gone through two already. This time it’s Sean Murphy, he sang for Collapse on the comp, so he definitely “gets it”. We just have to figure out a good time for all of us to sit down & get this wrapped up. Not so easy these days with families, jobs & other necessities of daily life. It will get done, there’s no timetable, just taking it one day at a time. Thanks for the interest, you will definitely hear more about it as it comes out. It was great reminiscing about these old days that still mean a lot to me. I hope I was able to shed some light on the A-Bomb-A-Nation story, thanks again!

Show review: Absolution, Raw Deal, Sick Of It All, Underdog at CBGBs

This show review originally published in In Effect fanzine, issue 1.

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Raw Deal at CBGBs (04-17-1988)
As an extra treat, you can also download their live set here:
https://www4.zippyshare.com/v/yxHVpHSR/file.html

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Absolution at CBGBs

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Raw Deal demo recording session

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Lou (Sick Of It All) and Anthony (Raw Deal) at The Garage

“Lou: It’s good. It’s a lot bigger than when we first started going to shows. There are so many new kids and new bands. A lot of the bands are good, just some of them should be more original. Originality is what makes bands stick out and that’s why bands like Raw Deal and Absolution have come to the top out of all the new bands because they are original in their sound and in their music. They borrow stuff from other bands just like us, but we don’t let that rule our style.” Sick Of It All interview from 1988, In Effect fanzine #2.

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Underdog, 1988